Contradictions (In The Trinity)

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<h1>Contradictions (In The Trinity)</h1><strong> Author: <a href='http://www.articleseen.com/profile_Steve-0.aspx'>Steve-0</a></strong><br /><p>DOES THE BIBLE CONTRADICT ITSELF? YES, IF THE DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY IS RIGHT. IT TEACHES THAT THE FATHER, SON, AND HOLY GHOST ARE THREE SEPARATE AND DISTANCE PERSONS. EACH IS CO-ETERNAL, CO-EXISTENT AND CO-EQUAL IN POWER. FIVE MAJOR CONTRADICTIONS 1. CREATION Genesis the first chapter God the Father created all things. Isaiah 44:24 God made all things alone and by himself. The Contradiction St. John 1:3 and 10 with Colossians 1:14-16 -- Here the Bible says that everything was made by Jesus. Dr. Billy Graham in a 1995 broadcast used the above scriptures and said he couldn't understand it, but still believes in the trinity. 2. THE FATHER Luke 1:32 Here Jesus was called the Son of the highest (God the Father). The Contradiction Matthew 1: 18-20. Here Matthew clearly tells us that the Father of Jesus was the Holy Ghost. 3. THE "I AM" Exodus 3:14 God said "I Am that I Am, Tell them that I Am hath sent you." The Contradiction St John 8:58, Jesus said "Before Abraham was, 'I AM.'" Israel, knowing that "I AM' referred to Jehovah God, picked up stones to kill him. The Hebrew word for "I AM' is HAVAH, (pronounced Haw,Yaw). It means "Jehovah God, The Self Existent One." . 4. THE FIRST AND THE LAST Isaiah 44: 6, 8 The LORD (JEHOVAH) said "I am the first and I am the last, and beside me there is no God." The Contradiction Revelation 1:8, 11 and 17. There Jesus declares that he himself is the first and the last and the Almighty. . 5. THE RESURRECTION Acts 3:15, 26 with Galatians 1:1. God the Father raised up Jesus from the dead. The Contradiction John 2:19, 21 Jesus said, "Destroy this temple (his body) and in three days I will raise it up. THE ONENESS DOCTRINE REMOVES ALL CONTRADICTIONS. 1. CREATION Adam Clark said in his commentary on St. John 1:3 "God and Christ are said to have created all things, therefore Christ and the Father are one." Jesus clearly said, "I and my father are one." John 10:30 Hath not one God created us. Mal 2:10 2. THE FATHER It is impossible for Christ to have had two fathers. Therefore the Holy Ghost and the Father are the one and the selfsame spirit. 3. THE 'I AM' This sacred name could not be used by two persons. John 8:58-59 when Jesus used it they (the Pharisees) tried to kill him because they thought he was claiming to be God. 4. THE FIRST AND THE LAST It is utterly unthinkable to have two firsts and two lasts. Therefore Christ and God are one. Just as Jesus said in St. John 10:30. "I and my Father are one." 5. THE RESURRECTION Here Jesus speaks from his divine nature letting us know he was both God and man. Jesus raised his own body from the grave. John 2: 19, 21. THE KEY TO UNDERSTANDING You must keep in mind the dual nature of Christ, being God manifest in the flesh, he could speak and act as both man and God. Understanding the Oneness of God removes all contradictions in the Bible. Here now are some questions for trinitarians to consider. There's a number of contradictions and problems associated with trinitarianism. This list is not exhaustive one by any means, but it does give an idea of how much the doctrine deviates from the Bible. 1. Did Jesus Christ have two fathers? The Father is the Father of the Son (I John 1:3), yet the child born of Mary was conceived by the Holy Ghost (Matthew 1:18, 20; Luke 1:35). Which one is the true father? Some trinitarians say that the Holy Ghost was merely the Father's agent in conception - a process they compare to artificial insemination. 2. How many Spirits are there? God the Father is a Spirit (John 4:24), the Lord Jesus is a Spirit (II Corinthians 3:17), and the Holy Spirit is a Spirit by definition. Yet there is one Spirit (I Corinthians 12:13; Ephesians 4:4). 3. If Father and Son are co-equal persons, why did Jesus pray to the Father? (Matthew 11:25). Can God pray to God? 4. Similarly, how can the Son not know as much as the Father? (Matthew 24:36; Mark 13:32). 5. Similarly, how can the Son not have any power except what the Father gives Him? (John 5:19, 30; 6:38). 6. Similarly, what about other verses of Scripture indicating the inequality of the Son and the Father? (John 8:42; 14:28; I Corinthians 11:3). 7. Did "God the Son" die? The Bible says the Son died (Romans 5:10). If so, can God die? Can part of God die? 8. How can there be an eternal Son when the Bible speaks of the begotten Son, clearly indicating that the Son had a beginning? (John 3:16; Hebrews 1:5-6). 9. If the Son is eternal and existed at creation, who was His mother at that time? We know the Son was made of a woman (Galatians 4:4). 10. Did "God the Son" surrender His omnipresence while on earth? If so, how could he still be God? 11. If the Son is eternal and immutable (unchangeable), how can the reign of the Son have an ending? (I Corinthians 15:24-28). 12. If in answer to questions 3 through 11 we say only the human Son of God was limited in knowledge, was limited in power, and died, then how can we speak of "God the Son"? Are there two Sons? 13. Whom do we worship and to whom do we pray? Jesus said to worship the Father (John 4:21-24), yet Stephen prayed to Jesus (Acts 7:59-60). 14. Can there be more than three persons in the Godhead? Certainly the Old Testament does not teach three but emphasizes oneness. If the New Testament adds to the Old Testament message and teaches three persons, then what is to prevent subsequent revelations of additional persons? If we apply trinitarian logic to interpret some verses of Scripture, we could teach a fourth person (Isaiah 48:16; Colossians 1:3; 2:2; I Thessalonians 3:11; James 1:27). Likewise, we could interpret some verses of Scripture to mean six more persons (Revelation 3:1; 5:6). 15. Are there three Spirits in a Christian's heart? Father, Jesus, and the Spirit all dwell within a Christian (John 14:17, 23; Romans 8:9; Ephesians 3:14-17). Yet there is one Spirit (I Corinthians 12:13; Ephesians 4:4). 16. There is only one throne in heaven (Revelation 4:2). Who sits upon it? We know Jesus does (Revelation 1:8,18, 4:8). Where do the Father and the Holy Spirit sit? 17. If Jesus is on the throne, how can He sit on the right hand of God? (Mark 16:19). Does He sit or stand on the right hand of God? (Acts 7:55). Or is He in the Father's bosom? (John 1:18). 18. Is Jesus in the Godhead or is the Godhead in Jesus? Colossians 2:9 says the latter. 19. Given Matthew 28:19, why did the apostles consistently baptize both Jews and Gentiles using the name of Jesus, even to the extent of rebaptism? (Acts 2:38; 8:16; 10:48; 19:5; 22:16; I Corinthians 1:13). 20. Who raised Jesus from the dead? Did the Father (Ephesians 1:20), or Jesus (John 2:19-21), or the Spirit? (Romans 8:11). 21. If Son and Holy Ghost are co-equal persons in the Godhead, why is blasphemy of the Holy Ghost unforgivable but blasphemy of the Son is not? (Luke 12:10). 22. If the Holy Ghost is a co-equal member of the trinity, why does the Bible always speak of Him being sent from the Father or from Jesus? (John 14:26; 15:26). 23. Does the Father know something that the Holy Spirit does not know? If so, how can they be co-equal? Only the Father knows the day and hour of the Second Coming of Christ (Mark 13:32). 24. Did the trinity make the Old and New covenants? We know the LORD (Jehovah) did (Jeremiah 31:31-34; Hebrews 8:7-13). If Jehovah is a trinity then Father, Son, and Spirit all had to die to make the new covenant effective (Hebrews 9:16-17). 25. If the Spirit proceeds from the Father, is the Spirit also a son of the Father? If not, why not? 26. If the Spirit proceeds from the Son, is the Spirit the grandson of the Father? If not, why not? Remember that trinitarians cannot explain out the trinity themselves. Here's what 'Got Qeustions' (a trinitarian Protestant group) says about the trinity. "The Trinity is a concept that is impossible for any human being to fully understand, let alone explain. Keep in mind when studying this subject that the word “Trinity” is not found in Scripture." Carm (Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry) also says the following heretical double-talk nonsense and anti-Christian words. "Furthermore, to say that if God wanted us to believe in the Trinity He would have clearly taught it in scripture, is also an invalid argument. Something does not have to be clearly formulated in the Bible to be valid. Not all things taught in the Bible are perfectly clear." Jesus said that we must live by every word of God, and by nothing else. "But he (Jesus) answered (Satan) and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God." The Apostle Paul said that the word of God simple to be understood by a believer, when we use it without additions or traditions of man. "Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtlety, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ." If the word of God was enough for Jesus and the Apostles, well that is good enough for me. First-century believers accepted the Scriptures as the authentic revelation of God. It was the basis for their beliefs, the final authority. For example, when the apostle Paul preached to people in the city of Berea, "they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the Scriptures daily, whether those things were so." (Acts 17:11) They tested his words to see if they lined up with the word of God. "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world." (1 John 4:1) They were true Christians. Here's what the Catholics have said about their own invention (the trinity). The Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics (volume 12, pages 461-462) gives us insight into this matter, it says that it was a clear Catholic invention. "In thinking upon the trinity, they arrived at the trinity. Nonetheless the greatest and most influential of the Christians fathers, Origen, Athanaius, Basil and the Gregorys, Augustine, all acknowledge that, the divine nature (of God) remained for them a mystery." A Catholic authority states that the Trinity "is not . . . directly and immediately [in the] word of God." (New Catholic Encyclopedia) The Catholic Encyclopedia also comments: "In Scripture there is as yet no single term by which the Three Divine Persons are denoted together." And the New Catholic Encyclopedia also says: "The doctrine of the Holy Trinity is not taught in the Old Testament." The same goes for many others. The all admit to the fact that the trinity is a fabrication of imagination, and that it is not found in the word of God. The Encyclopedia of Religion admits: "Theologians today are in agreement that the Hebrew Bible does not contain a doctrine of the Trinity." "The word Trinity is not found in the Bible . . . It did not find a place formally in the theology of the church till the 4th century." (The Illustrated Bible Dictionary) A Jesuit (named Fortman) admits: "The New Testament writers . . . give us no formal or formulated doctrine of the Trinity, no explicit teaching that in one God there are three co-equal divine persons. . . . Nowhere do we find any trinitarian doctrine of three distinct subjects of divine life and activity in the same Godhead." The New Encyclopedia Britannica observes: "Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament." Bernhard Lohse says in A Short History of Christian Doctrine: "As far as the New Testament is concerned, one does not find in it an actual doctrine of the Trinity." The New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology similarly states: "The New Testament does not contain the developed doctrine of the Trinity. 'The Bible lacks the express declaration that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are of equal essence' [said Protestant theologian Karl Barth]." Yale University professor E. Washburn Hopkins affirmed: "To Jesus and Paul the doctrine of the trinity was apparently unknown; . . . they say nothing about it." (Origin and Evolution of Religion) Historian Arthur Weigall notes: "Jesus Christ never mentioned such a phenomenon, and nowhere in the New Testament does the word 'Trinity' appear. The idea was only adopted by the Church three hundred years after the death of our Lord." (The Paganism in Our Christianity) "The Trinity is an unintelligible proposition of platonic mysticism that three are one and one is three." [quote from Thomas Jefferson] The Greek mythology and pagan religious beliefs were derived from Babylon. "The Platonic trinity, itself merely a rearrangement of older trinities dating back to earlier peoples, appears to be the rational philosophic trinity of attributes that gave birth to the three hypostases or divine persons taught by the Christian churches . . . This Greek philosopher's (Plato, 4th century BC) conception of the divine trinity . . . can be found in all ancient (pagan) religions." (Nouveau Dictionnaire Universel 1870) "Egypt and Greece derived their religion from Babylon." (The Two Babylons, 1916 Rev. Alexander Hislop) "Neoplatonism is a type of idealistic monism in which the ultimate reality of the universe is held to be an infinite, unknowable, perfect One. From this One emanates nous (pure intelligence), whence in turn is derived the world soul, the creative activity of which engenders the lesser souls of human beings. The world soul is conceived as an image of the nous, even as the nous is an image of the One; both the nous and the world soul, despite their differentiation, are thus consubstantial [one substance] with the One." (Microsoft Encarta Funk and Wagnalls, 1994) "The theologians Clement of Alexandria, Origen, and St. Augustine were early Christian exponents of a Platonic perspective. Platonic ideas have had a crucial role in the development of Christian theology. We find Christianity tending to absorb Greek philosophical values, until by the end of the third century the line between the beliefs of educated Christian and educated pagan in the east would often be hard to draw." (Microsoft Encarta Funk and Wagnalls, 1994) "Summing up the historical evidence, Alvan Lamson says in The Church of the First Three Centuries: "The modern popular doctrine of the Trinity . . . derives no support from the language of Justin [Martyr]: and this observation may be extended to all the ante-Nicene Fathers; that is, to all Christian writers for three centuries after the birth of Christ. It is true, they speak of the Father, Son, and . . . holy Spirit, but not as co-equal, not as one numerical essence, not as Three in One, in any sense now admitted by Trinitarians. The very reverse is the fact." (The Rise of Christianity by W.H.C. Frend, 1985) So the early Catholics began mixing Greek (pagan) and Babylonian philosophical and religious trinitarian concepts along with their Christian doctrine which lead them to begin considering the trinity, and after three centuries that thinking finally took hold. Acts 17:22 says that the Greeks were too superstitious, and I Corinthians 1:22 says that the Jews require a sign and the Greeks seek after wisdom. The Greeks were too intellectual in their approach to God’s Word. They became wise in their own eyes and the truth of God’s Word became foolishness to them, so they grafted their own superstitious philosophical wisdom into God’s Word and changed the truth into a lie; they changed Son of God to God the Son. Thus, the testimony of the Bible and of history makes clear that the Trinity was unknown throughout Biblical times, and it took some centuries thereafter for it to be a wide spread doctrine that was accepted (mostly by force or coercion) into Christianity. </p><strong>About the Author:</strong><br />Wikipedia, Catholicism, Encyclopedia, The King James Bible, The Two babylons, Thomas Jefferson, W.H.C. Frend, Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry (Carm), Got Questions?, Protestants, Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics, New Catholic Encyclopedia, A Short History of Christian Doctrine, The New Encyclopedia Britannica<p> Article Source: <a href='http://www.articleseen.com/Article_Contradictions-(In-The-Trinity)_91314.aspx'> http://www.articleseen.com/Article_Contradictions (In The Trinity)_91314.aspx</a></p>

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